Retirement in Puerto Vallarta - How Are Gringos Treated in Mexico?

Not all tourists that visit Mexico are treated the same.The Mexicans that we've met, including the woman
As an example, those that come to traffic or use illegalworking in our villa, would be happy to have their
drugs are treated rather harshly in Mexico, resulting inpictures taken, fingerprints, etc. but the system virtually
terrible vacations while south of the border! Anotherdenies their legal entry into the States. As a side note
one that's probably not anxious to return to Mexico isof interest, upon returning to PV after our summer in
Dawg, The Bounty Hunter. He was not treated with aTahoe last year, we discussed the above story with
great deal of dignity and respect, however he tooour local US Consulate agent in Vallarta. She
might not have closely followed the Mexican laws asconfirmed that visas to the US were just not being
he handcuffed his fugitive and hauled him out of thegranted at this time because of all the immigration
country! On the other hand, as normal law abiding folks,related problems in the States. In comparison, it's a
we have been treated like family, like friends, almostcake walk getting into Mexico for US and Canadian
like royalty ever since we began making ourcitizens!
semi-annual visits to Puerto Vallarta, Mexico in 1984,US and Canadian citizens are treated with respect,
when we purchased a condo in Mismaloya, about sixdignity, and welcomed as guests in Vallarta. Of course,
miles south of Vallarta. Back in the 80´s, it didn'tthe economy in PV depends solely on tourism and it is
take much more than a photo identification in order toin the best interest of the locals to see that all tourists
get a Mexican FMT or tourist visa. Today, a passporthave a pleasant and safe visit while in Paradise. In the
or certified copy of a birth certificate is required for anten years that we've lived here, we're not aware of a
FMT visitor visa. These visas are good for staying upsingle robbery, burglary, picked pocket, or any other
to 90 days in Mexico; however you can ask for andcrime committed on a foreign resident or tourist. It is so
often receive a 180 day FMT visa. There is no chargetourist friendly in Vallarta that there are now
for these tourist visas and they are easily obtained atapproximately 50,000 North Americans living here
the departure airport or at the Mexican customs officeduring the "high season" of November through May.
when arriving by vehicle. Upon entering Mexico, theThere are millions of tourists by plane or cruise boat
immigration agents stamp your copy of the visa andthat visit PV each season and unless they're really
record your entry into their computerized data baselooking for trouble, they'll never find it. Furthermore, in
with information regarding the length of your stay and2001 the readers of Conde Nast Magazine voted
where you'll be staying. Upon leaving the country, youPuerto Vallarta the eighth best vacation destination in
return your copy of the visa and your departure timethe world and the very friendliest city in the world. That
is entered into their system. In other words, visitingConde Nast poll pretty well sums up the way tourists
Vallarta for less than six months is about as simple asor retirees are treated in Vallarta.
it could be.For those of us that are retired and having so much
Now, to put the above Mexican treatment offun in Paradise that we don't want to leave in 180
American and Canadian tourists requesting visas intodays, we merely apply for an FM3 permit, a long term
perspective, let's compare it to what Mexicans mustvisitor permit which resembles a passport, costs about
do to legally visit the US. This can be best done by$100, and takes about a month to obtain. We must
telling the following story which is based on personalprovide photos, fingerprints, proof of residency such as
experience and is typical of American immigrationelectric and water bills, and proof of self sufficiency
practice throughout Mexico.such as any bank statement. The FM3 allows a North
For many years, we thoroughly enjoyed our vacationsAmerican to stay in Mexico for one year and can be
in PV, so much so, that in 1997 we bought a beautifulrenewed annually. This long term visitor status allows
villa and decided to make Vallarta our permanentthe foreigner to bring his car into Mexico and keep it
residence. We have had a lovely couple working in thehere indefinitely, as long as the FM3 is kept current.
villa for the past eight years. They are a kind, intelligent,Our Grand Cherokee Jeep still has the 1997 Texas
clean, honest, and church going couple with two ofplates and no taxes have been paid on the vehicle
their three children now attending the University ofsince 1997. Unlike the US where everything must be
Guadalajara. As a bonus for their many years of hardpolitically correct, the Mexicans have no qualms with
work and loyalty, last year we offered the woman anprofiling. If for any reason, a Mexican policeman gets
all expenses paid one week vacation to visit us in thethe urge, he can pull over a foreign plated car and
Lake Tahoe area where we spend the summers. Shecheck the status of the driver's FM3. For that reason,
has never been to the States and needless to say,everyone keeps a copy of their current immigration
she was very excited and looked forward to the trip.papers in the glove box of their car.
We called the US Consulate in Guadalajara toAfter five years of FM3 renewals, i.e., five years of
determine the required procedure for Mexicans to visitliving more than 180 days per year in Mexico, you are
the US. First, a current passport is required, so within athen given the option to continue with a new FM3 or
month, she had obtained her new passport. We wereconvert to an FM2. The FM2 requires the same
also informed that she needed a copy of her bankdocumentation as the FM3 but costs a little more and
account statement in Mexico, a copy of her marriagestill requires annual renewal. The main difference is that
license, a copy of her property deed, employmentan FM2 designates the holder as an immigrant rather
records, and a letter of invitation from us would bethan a visitor. This is a critical difference as it pertains
helpful. We wrote a half page typed letter of invitation,to the treatment of capital gains on the sale of real
thanking her for the years of dedication and service,estate. Exemption from capital gains tax is granted
and then helped her assemble all of the requiredonly to those that can provide proof of primary
documents into a single file folder. Again we contactedresidency in Mexico for at least five years, with
the US Consulate, informed them that all of theprimary residency being anything greater than 180
required documentation was in order, and scheduleddays per year. The FM2 document clearly proves
an appointment for her interview. On the day of herprimary residency for longer than five years. After the
appointment, dressed in her Sunday best, she took thefifth year of holding an FM2, the holder becomes
folder full of required documents and the cover lettereligible for a permanent resident alien status and no
of invitation to the US Consulate in Guadalajara whichlonger is required to renew his FM2 on an annual basis.
is a five hour drive from Vallarta. The US ConsulateAll of the aforementioned immigration documents can
was packed with hundreds of Mexicans and they putbe obtained at the local Mexican immigration office,
her in a line with about 50 others, probably all havingwhich for us living in Paradise, is right here in Vallarta.
the same appointment time. She indicated that not aThe FM3´s or FM2´s are stamped and
single person of the 50 Mexicans ahead of her wasrecorded every time you leave or enter Mexico.
granted a visa. Finally, after an hour and a half, sheCompared to the US, you've got to give the Mexicans
made it to the front of the line. They interviewed hercredit; they have a much better handle on who's in and
for less than two minutes, said her letter of invitationwho's out of their country. In summarizing, due to the
wasn't notarized, and basically threw her out just likerelative ease in obtaining the proper immigration papers
the previous fifty people. Of course, during our phonein Mexico, there is virtually no reason for any American
conversation, they never mentioned a requirement ofor Canadian to be here undocumented. If any problem
notarization of the letter of invitation when they listedwere to ever occur, both American and Canadian
the requirements. In fact, the letter was not even aConsulates are located in Vallarta to assist you.
requirement, but only a helpful addition to her list ofFor those really serious about living in Mexico, after
requirements. In all probability, the Consulate handed outestablishing your primary residence in Mexico for five
very few, if any, visas for travel to the US that day.years and learning a fair amount of Spanish, for about
From what our friend witnessed during her two hours$1,500 and with the assistance of a local immigration
at the US Consulate, they granted zero visas that day.attorney, you can apply for Mexican citizenship. Once
After getting her hopes so high and being so excitedall of the applications have been submitted and an
about the vacation, after spending her money on theinterview with the immigration agent is completed, the
passport, the money for the five hour journey to andwaiting period is approximately 18 more months. If and
from Guadalajara, the night spent in Guadalajara, thewhen granted, you will hold dual citizenships and have
time to assemble all of the required documents, andpretty much all the rights of a naturalized Mexican
the two hours in the Consulate, there was virtually nocitizen. Although most of the natives in Vallarta speak
chance of getting a visa to the US for a Mexicansome degree of English, unlike the US and Canada,
citizen and the worst part of it was, the employees ofMexico has a primary language. It is Spanish and the
the Consulate knew it.immigration officials make it crystal clear when
Why in the world would the US Consulate treat theinterviewing for Mexican citizenship. It's not until the two
thousands, perhaps hundreds of thousands ofhour interview in Spanish is completed that you learn
Mexicans that way when they are trying to visit thethat the interviewing attorney speaks fluent English!
US legally? It's no wonder that millions of Mexicans areHowever, to their credit, they do accept Espanglish
sneaking across the border undocumented. It's got towhich is our hybrid between English and Spanish.
be a lot easier, faster, and perhaps cheaper to sneakOf course money talks, but from what we've
across the border, thus resulting in the US having noexperienced for ten years, the Mexicans treat the
clue as to who has entered the country, where theyGringos substantially better than the Gringos treat the
are, how long they're staying, or what they're doing.Mexicans.